Tuesday, June 4, 2013

From Old Mole: KBOO workers vote to unionize! With extra Spam!

He tells it to the cadre like it is, no matter how much the Enemies of the People try to confuse his with their MKULTRA Tricks:

https://www.facebook.com/oldmole/posts/10201413854493433


  • KBOO workers vote to unionize!
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    • Timothy Martin Flanagan The KBOO Board Meeting is June 3rd. Volunteers and KBOO Foundation members need to show up and let the Board know
      that corporate style, top-down management is not acceptable.
    • Rebecca Nay I am thrilled this passed. As far as your management statement, As long as the alternative is not collective management I can agree with this.. Of course now that they are unionized I don't believe they can go back to the collective management days. That said.. it's that nice middle ground we need to work towards, which I see as a top-down, transparent, and participatory structure.
    • Timothy Martin Flanagan For the past few years, the management of KBOO has been issuing top-down edits, without consulting with the rest of the KBOO collective. This contradicts the founding principles of the station. Now, the staff, volunteers, listeners, KBOO foundation me...See More
    • Rebecca Nay Lynn has been on for about a year.. That's it.. It was the collective management experiment before that, and it was not good for the station. Accountability went out the door. So if you are advocating for a return to that, how can someone be unionized and management at the same time? I am happy they are unionized so they do have a voice in this process, additionally, maybe the union will help get some time of structure and accountability in place.
    • Julie Derrick Hooray! This is good news to me, as a member. And I am sincerely hoping the management will not make obstacles to the employees contract. Please just get on with the good radio!
    • Timothy Martin Flanagan I share your hope Julie. The station was formed via collective management. This occurred back in the sixties and seventies and led to record growth up through the nineties. But in the past 15 years, before and after Lynn, the station has been run by t...See More
    • Rebecca Nay Thanks for the perspective Tim... your time at the boo doubles mine although it would appear that neither of us was here during the original collective management days. All I know is that the recent attempt at it did not go so well. Because of the evolving radio landscape, I have reservations going back to the way things were 15 years ago. That said, I think we both want the same thing (a strong KBOO that sticks to its values). Those of us in the KBOO Community that see things differently from you want to be part of this important discussion (otherwise its really not community, but more so a club). I believe there is a compromise between top down and collective, and that's what we should work towards.
    • Timothy Martin Flanagan Thanks for your thoughtful response, Rebecca. But I would have to disagree on a critical point: there have been no recent attempts at "collective management."
      But I appreciate your acknowledgment that collective collaboration is part and
      parcel of wh      ...See More
    • Rebecca Nay I appreciate your passion Tim, and your very polite and informative attempt to tell me that my opinions and experiences are wrong and have no place at KBOO. LOL.. Feel free to correct me if I am reading too much into this. Again, I cannot speak to the efficacy of collective management 15 years ago, but the staff did indeed go through a period of collective management for about 2 years in between Arthur and Lynn. True the board never officially recognized it as an authorized permanent form of management, but they did as an interim model. In regards to compromise, we will have to agree to disagree. I don't know anybody that is advocating for KBOO to be a "commercial enterprise." That is a very extreme assessment. I feel like making such an accusation, regardless of who it is directed at, is condescending, misleading, and for me, it totally sabotages your message of "community."
    • Kurt Lauer Seriously, Tim, I have to doubt most of the 'facts' you reference. I was the President for the bulk of the Collective Management and it was turned down after multiple attempts because of the lack of structure, accountability and ability. It was a period of DECLINING membership and the worst financial losses in 15 years. Your facts are in error at best and outright misinformation from a lying minority, at worst. No one is trying to make KBOO corporate. No one is trying to bust a union. Everyone involved loves KBOO and wants it to exist for years to come. It will not survive it's financial woes if it is run the way Keep KBOO KBOO (KKK?) wants to spend the money. It will not evolve while people keep trying to stop change. It is nowhere near as relevant as it used to be, or could be again. Check your facts before you post again. You seem to be getting the bulk of your information from the websites the have the least truth on them. You don't have to agree but you should get the truth before you repost.
    • Timothy Martin Flanagan Dear Kurt,

      Ballard Law is a union-busting firm. And facts remain. I got my information from the people who put KBOO together and did the work at the station and from current board directors, including public broadcasts and statements by the "navigato      r."
      You have not challenged any specific information I posted.

      The station was created as a collective and grew, to include more than 7000 members by listening and being responsive to members and staff. It started losing membership when arbitrary top-down firings, questionable spending, and reorganizations began.

      And Rebecca, what I said about you is "It's good to have you and others involved who are deeply concerned and care about alternative media and disparate communities whose members have been neglected or ignored by mainstream media."

      Hopefully, tomorrow, both truth and constructive organization can prevail.

      with best regards, Tim
    • Kurt Lauer Right, and all Postal employees are gun-toting psychopaths.
    • Rebecca Nay OH KURT!!!! LOL...
    • Kurt Lauer There must be some truth to it. I've never heard anyone say that they were going to "Go Chef" on anyone.
    • Rebecca Nay South Park did...
    • Timothy Martin Flanagan I find your curious disparagement of postal employees a bit bizzare. Bullard Law firm is infamous. From their website:

      Employers appreciate our proactive, practical and preventative approach, and in labor-related litigation, they depend on representa      tion from a qualified labor attorney. Portland, Oregon employers know that we represent both private and public employers in collective bargaining, grievance and arbitration, strikes and other labor disputes, NLRB proceedings, day-to-day labor relations, and union avoidance. We appear in front of state and federal agencies, and in state and federal trial and appellate courts. We know that time can be a critical factor, and have organized our team for quick response when needed. We'll also take the time to strategize and plan with you to keep issues from flaring into problems. When you need a labor lawyer, Portland, Oregon’s Bullard Law is here to help. As part of our commitment to prevention, we provide extensive training programs. Our ongoing series of presentations, seminars, publications, and blog posts keep you and your organization informed and able to make better decisions in the workplace. Here's a closer look at ways we're here to partner with you:
      COLLECTIVE BARGAINING

      Chief spokesperson
      Strategic decision-making
      Management team training
      Bargaining proposals
      Wage & hour
      Benefits
      Employment terms & conditions
      Preparing defensive tactics
      Multi-employer agreements
      GRIEVANCE & ARBITRATION

      Analysis of impact
      Selection of arbiters
      Development of grievance and arbitration strategies
      Representation in arbitration
      LABOR DISPUTES

      Strike preparation
      Operations strategy
      Addressing illegal strike activities
      Providing NLRB remedies
      Representation in court
      Injunctive Relief
      NLRB PROCEEDINGS

      Unfair labor practice claims
      Representation proceedings
      Compliance proceedings
      Union elections
      Decertification of bargaining units
      Trial and appellate services
      Unlawful union activity
      PUBLIC SECTOR LABOR LAW

      Unfair labor practices
      Collective bargaining
      Employee relations
      Strategic decision-making
      Representation before Oregon Employment Relations Board, PERC (Washington), and other state agencies
      Interest Arbitration
      Representation proceedings
      UNION AVOIDANCE

      Strategies to maintain a union-free workplace
      Employee communications
      Employment law compliance
      Employee relations
      Minimization of union activity
    • Kurt Lauer That's a lot of incomplete sentences but what does that have to do with it?
    • Rebecca Nay I am guessing that Kurt is being facetious about the postal employee comments.. Both of us have challenged a couple of your points though Tim, and you keep responding with basically a cut and paste of previous comments. While some of what you are saying may be true, not all of it is. A staff collective DID in FACT happen recently. I worked on staff under that collective, and Kurt was the board president during that time period. I also asked about how an employee can be unionized AND management at the same time. With the CWA on board, the collective management model is dead. If Lynn leaves, and after all this insanity, she most assuredly will, a new manager must be hired.
    • Timothy Martin Flanagan Dear Rebecca,

      I understand Kurt did not intend to disparage postal employees. With the CWA on board, perhaps we can preserve traditional KBOO values and make progress.

      Lynn has made some decisions whose negative impact may have been mitigated
      by more input from staff, volunteers, and members. But I think she means to help move the station forward in a positive direction. I have not advocated for her removal, only that she be more flexible.

      Perhaps once there is better communication established, we can focus on good radio, compassionate and inclusive leadership, and dynamic music and conversations not normally found in mainstream media. Unions are what collectives are about: unity, working together, and respect.

      with best regards, Tim

Oh shit!   Did Mole let the cat out of the bag?

Timothy Martin Flanagan For the past few years, the management of KBOO has been issuing top-down edits, without consulting with the rest of the KBOO collective. This contradicts the founding principles of the station. Now, the staff, volunteers, listeners, KBOO foundation members, CWA, and the Portland community can work together to determine and impement the priorities and future course of this community station. With the union holding the board of directors accountable, we can return to an inclusive, responsive, community-based, collective management model.


Rebecca Nay Lynn has been on for about a year.. That's it..
Damn! Damn! And Double DAMN!!!   How can we continue to blame Fitch for "top down" management, when that's been around LONGER than Fitch has?    

 CURSES!  SOILED AGAIN!!!

 And beware cadre, the ENEMY has gotten wind of our battle plans:

Kurt Lauer Seriously, Tim, I have to doubt most of the 'facts' you reference. I was the President for the bulk of the Collective Management and it was turned down after multiple attempts because of the lack of structure, accountability and ability. It was a period of DECLINING membership and the worst financial losses in 15 years. Your facts are in error at best and outright misinformation from a lying minority, at worst. No one is trying to make KBOO corporate. No one is trying to bust a union. Everyone involved loves KBOO and wants it to exist for years to come. It will not survive it's financial woes if it is run the way Keep KBOO KBOO (KKK?) wants to spend the money. It will not evolve while people keep trying to stop change. It is nowhere near as relevant as it used to be, or could be again. Check your facts before you post again. You seem to be getting the bulk of your information from the websites the have the least truth on them. You don't have to agree but you should get the truth before you repost.

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Rebecca Nay I am guessing that Kurt is being facetious about the postal employee comments.. Both of us have challenged a couple of your points though Tim, and you keep responding with basically a cut and paste of previous comments. While some of what you are saying may be true, not all of it is. A staff collective DID in FACT happen recently. I worked on staff under that collective, and Kurt was the board president during that time period. I also asked about how an employee can be unionized AND management at the same time. With the CWA on board, the collective management model is dead. If Lynn leaves, and after all this insanity, she most assuredly will, a new manager must be hired.
SHIT!  They're on to the ol' copy/pasta monkey wrench trolling tactic!

 Quick, we need another one....the "monkey wrench  trolling pasta/copy" tactic?
Ideas welcome!

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