tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post5084869836229688691..comments2023-11-03T03:06:12.480-07:00Comments on Save KBOO from Save KBOO: Scary Board Member quotes Bylaws RE: CABCompanion No1http://www.blogger.com/profile/00808680294347913215noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-64559927612008402402013-07-02T14:01:39.408-07:002013-07-02T14:01:39.408-07:00You forgot to add: if you suspect you're a tar...You forgot to add: if you suspect you're a target, don't tip the person off! Don't even talk about the idea! Play along, watch them, and even feed them info you don't care about or is even made up and see if it pops up where it shouldn't. And document everyfuckingthing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-38120016514664235672013-07-02T13:25:11.156-07:002013-07-02T13:25:11.156-07:00>>Maybe KBOO needs a "none of the above...>>Maybe KBOO needs a "none of the above" option if choices are that grim. <br /><br />This is a good idea. Also, assaulting consultants should automatically disqualify someone from running. -_-Duh Filesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-66578761279616683492013-07-02T12:57:25.088-07:002013-07-02T12:57:25.088-07:00"BTW, I spoke towards the end of the board me..."BTW, I spoke towards the end of the board meeting in early June. I was very surprised to see Michael applauding what I had to say. Wish I had video of that moment."<br /><br />Not completely a surprise. <br /><br />One tactic of groups fronting to be more radical than thou, but wanting to keep secret control, is having members "defect" or befriend and commiserate with persons who pose a threat. They can put on a good act, but give themselves away eventually. <br />One clue is they rarely "confront the problem" when the person they're trying to fool is not watching. They will have almost ZERO history privately trying to talk sense into the troublemaker. <br />Another clue: even though they publicly confront the problem, they're never targeted for attacks by the "inner party". The same people who rave like loons at the slightest imagined party disloyalty give these people a pass.<br />Third clue: (watch out for this one) while they privately commiserate with the target, and encourage them to act, they will not step out into the limelight. And, strangely, the Party always seems one step ahead of the target.<br /> <br />All the above plays on the target's reasonable and understanding nature, and difficulty believing there are people who will lie to their face over this petty bullshit. <br /><i>Thank all the informant pricks at OWS for the above lesson!</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-49480112117310383042013-07-02T12:16:46.585-07:002013-07-02T12:16:46.585-07:00"Are you the same commenter who said "We..."Are you the same commenter who said "Well maybe 400 people voted in the election last year" ?"<br /><br />Don't think it's the same person.<br /><br />Party Blog Botnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-82827665508486954982013-07-02T12:09:59.815-07:002013-07-02T12:09:59.815-07:00"Ironic isn't it, that I was posting to s..."Ironic isn't it, that I was posting to support the more sane positions of staff and some of the board, protecting the same KBOO that had allowed me to be publicly abused earlier."<br /><br />Speaking for the gang, we don't agree with you on everything, but you fucking rock, sir. :)Comrade Red Pantsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-91604284451769430802013-07-02T12:04:14.423-07:002013-07-02T12:04:14.423-07:00"I'm not trying to make excuses, I was tr..."I'm not trying to make excuses, I was trying to say that last year there were not enough good choices, so one had to choose. I don't believe this blog existed to educate voters last year, nor should one expect 5,000 members to actually do research on their ballot."<br /><br />Are you the same commenter who said "Well maybe 400 people voted in the election last year" ? 400 ppl cared enough to vote, but didn't do the research?<br /> <br />And why shouldn't we expect them to do research? This is supposed to be member run/supported radio. Or does that just mean members should parrot the loudest loons?<br /><br />Maybe KBOO needs a "none of the above" option if choices are that grim. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-48941064256681696952013-07-02T11:25:22.132-07:002013-07-02T11:25:22.132-07:00"MP is not a lawyer" ... nor is he the p..."MP is not a lawyer" ... nor is he the pope.<br /><br />Time to come clean. During one of the yearly hysterical fights between factions at KBOO (while MP and SF were busy suing KBOO) I am the person MP refered to as "anonymouse" during the online wars at kboo.fm over the FCC rules regarding citizenship for the board. In fact, I made about a third of the posts in the thread http://kboo.fm/node/17116. I posted anonomously as having just finished being defamed by TM, GH, and the usual suspects at KBOO I didn't think it would help to post as myself. Ironic isn't it, that I was posting to support the more sane positions of staff and some of the board, protecting the same KBOO that had allowed me to be publicly abused earlier.<br /><br />In those posts I said while I'm not a lawyer, I can read and understand the FCC decision that was used to deny MP a seat on the board ... and posted the direct link to the ruling from the FCC website. It really isn't hard to understand and I took a stand against MP and crew because I saw their actions as potentially damaging to the very existence of KBOO as a radio station.<br /><br />In my arguments with MP and a few others, I agreed that the law restricting the percentage of non citizens on the board was odd, but if he didn't like the law he should lobby his representatives to change the law. Simply ignoring the law or pretending it didn't exist was irresponsobile and could threaten the license. I also said at the time that it very well could have been convenient to those who were opposed to him being on the board that this rule excluded him till another resident alien quit or retired, but at that time I didn't have a dog in that fight. I do now.<br /><br />MP was finally seated on the board I believe because another non-citizen member left. No judge could have forced KBOO to seat him on the board if in that moment doing so would violate FCC rules. MP got onto the board the same way most of the board ends up there, by taking empty seats once other people have been run off the board.<br /><br />I found his appearance on radio during the last election cycle very odd. He would not take a stand on anything except to say he'd go along with others in his cadre. Go ahead and find the audio, it's worth listening to. Having board members who don't understand basic FCC rules, who sued the station when the station followed those rules, who ran for election on a platform of "I won't take a stand except that KBOO is the members" ... I gotta say it's sad.<br /><br />Now we have a board who votes to say they don't understand the basic documents about board procedure, nothing really changes does it? This is way deeper than the programming, how is KBOO going to survive it's own governance?<br /><br />BTW, I spoke towards the end of the board meeting in early June. I was very surprised to see Michael applauding what I had to say. Wish I had video of that moment.<br /><br /><br />Ed Krausnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-19904095730893511552013-07-02T09:52:46.704-07:002013-07-02T09:52:46.704-07:00The KBOO mission is not for sale, not for the thou...The KBOO mission is not for sale, not for the thousands we could get from a grant-maker to do their bidding, and not for $20 a pop members who might expect KBOO to serve only their interests and their ideology. Certainly, members are part of the public, and to the degree that they are part of an unserved or underserved community, KBOO would be serving these members by serving their community. We are, after all, underdog radio. However, we need to start letting all of the underdogs in the door. There are unserved and underserved and unheard communities in the Portland area that KBOO makes little or no effort to listen to. In that, KBOO is aligned with corporate radio. That's not only unfortunate, its reprehensible. Hadrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04467323167018664170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-17623783830216572752013-07-02T08:43:45.972-07:002013-07-02T08:43:45.972-07:00I'm not trying to make excuses, I was trying t...I'm not trying to make excuses, I was trying to say that last year there were not enough good choices, so one had to choose. I don't believe this blog existed to educate voters last year, nor should one expect 5,000 members to actually do research on their ballot.<br />That is the quandary we all continue to face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-7902719135885977712013-07-02T05:55:39.362-07:002013-07-02T05:55:39.362-07:00Sounds like someone wants to make excuses for keep...Sounds like someone wants to make excuses for keeping crazy ppl at KBOOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-90028228835285950452013-07-01T23:23:16.608-07:002013-07-01T23:23:16.608-07:00"A 501(c)(3) determination from the IRS, whic..."A 501(c)(3) determination from the IRS, which KBOO has, is a declaration of a certain kind of ownership of the business. It is owned by no one in particular, but everyone in general. The best way to understand that is knowing what happens if KBOO goes out of business. "<br /><br />This is a great exercise to drive all sorts of points home:what happens if KBOO fails.<br /><br />It also cuts through the bs of using people as proxies by feeding them misinformation or lies.<br /><br />I think a lot of people confuse "member" with "public" and "public good". Or they have the same fuzzy feelings for both, then conflate them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-2545174697355035912013-07-01T23:01:17.386-07:002013-07-01T23:01:17.386-07:00MP is not a lawyer, but he plays one on the KBOO B...MP is not a lawyer, but he plays one on the KBOO Board. For all of his citations of Oregon State law and our by-laws, he lacks some essential information on basic matters. I once asked him who owns KBOO. He said "the members." I asked who KBOO exists to serve. "The members." Wrong and wrong. On the first question, he is mistaking a marketing slogan for the legal reality. It's no longer allowed, but programmers doing pitches at pledge time still say out of habit, or ignorance, that by becoming a member of KBOO, you own it. <br /><br />A 501(c)(3) determination from the IRS, which KBOO has, is a declaration of a certain kind of ownership of the business. It is owned by no one in particular, but everyone in general. The best way to understand that is knowing what happens if KBOO goes out of business. After settling any of its outstanding financial obligations, all the remaining assets go to another 501(c)(3). If members were owners, the assets would go to them. That's not only prohibited by the IRS, but also the state of OR. Why? Because we are a public benefit corporation. Our assets are in perpetuity dedicated to the public good. We are owned by the public and governed by a Board which controls KBOO's assets, but only in furtherance of its mission. It is true that the members have some control over the corporation, but its limited to electing and removing Board members, and voting on by-law changes.<br /><br />On the 2nd question, who does KBOO serve, the proper answer is "The public." We are not the Elks Club. If we wanted to serve our members, KBOO would have to be a Mutual Benefit Corporation in the state and a 501(c)(17) with the IRS. If that were true, KBOO would not be a radio station.<br /><br />We do not serve our members. Rather, our members serve KBOO, by supporting our mission of serving the unserved and underserved. The staff exist to serve our volunteers. The Board exists to serve as stewards of the corporations assets. Unfortunately, that understanding is lacking at all levels.Hadrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04467323167018664170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-27449150757524492802013-07-01T18:27:12.914-07:002013-07-01T18:27:12.914-07:00Sounds like someone just wants to make excuses to ...Sounds like someone just wants to make excuses to keep violent crazy people at KBOO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-70981774772417509332013-07-01T18:05:12.991-07:002013-07-01T18:05:12.991-07:00"Several of the board candidates sent in thei..."Several of the board candidates sent in their applications a day or two before applications were due and wouldn't give a straight answer about who they were, what their history was, why they were running for the board, nor who they were friends with at KBOO. Most of these folks had zero history at KBOO. "<br /><br />Thanks. That gives some perspective. <br />OTOH so what? The guy is a loon with a conspiratard agenda attacking consultants. That automatically disqualifies him. Like TM, he's got an agenda that has nothing to do with serving the community.<br /><br />"Theresa and her band of hooligans are attempting to work together with him, as she doesn't really want the membership to vote on things, but rather wants to take the authority away from Lynn. Politics makes interesting bedfellows."<br /><br />Do some digging. Papa's association with Glorious Leader has nothing to do with KBOO politics. They both go back to a loose group of crazies in the conspiracy fairytale-prone community. <br /><br />It's right there in the article "Oregon Chemtrails".<br /><br />Give me a break.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-29707316544158525542013-07-01T16:43:03.825-07:002013-07-01T16:43:03.825-07:00That's a good question.
Several of the board c...That's a good question.<br />Several of the board candidates sent in their applications a day or two before applications were due and wouldn't give a straight answer about who they were, what their history was, why they were running for the board, nor who they were friends with at KBOO. Most of these folks had zero history at KBOO. Some were elected to the board, others were not.<br /><br />Less rational than Michael? Hard to tell, and possibly depends on the issue at hand. At least Pappy was a known entity. (what he was known for is another issue)<br /><br />I never said Michael was rational, I said there weren't many rational folks. At some point you had to pick which irrational person you'll vote for.<br /><br />Michael supports having the members vote on everything. It's not all that practical, but he is consistent. <br /><br />Theresa and her band of hooligans are attempting to work together with him, as she doesn't really want the membership to vote on things, but rather wants to take the authority away from Lynn. Politics makes interesting bedfellows.<br /><br />She no more wants to give the power to 5,000 people than does she want Lynn to have it. She just wants to stall anything happening to her wife, er I mean staff, make that award winning staff<br /><br />I'm guessing no one commenting on here ran for the board (other than perhaps Mackey or Rabia) because 6 of the 8 candidates made their way onto the board, with Alejandro being prohibited due to citizenship requirements, and David Haseltine never to be heard from again, as far as I can tell.<br /><br />Was Jeff Kipilman a better use of a vote?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-75886151423673953962013-07-01T16:12:00.127-07:002013-07-01T16:12:00.127-07:00"It's not like there was abundance of rat..."It's not like there was abundance of rational candidates."<br /><br /><br />Let's get this straight: the other candidates were LESS rational? What were THEY doing? Firebombing cars? Stealing office supplies? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-11972053684549763842013-07-01T15:46:56.756-07:002013-07-01T15:46:56.756-07:00"Download your copy!"
You can also get i..."Download your copy!"<br />You can also get it here: http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/32708<br /><br />"13 0409 kboo Lisa Loving talkls with Sophia Smallstorm (911 MYSTERIES) re Chemtrails and presentation at Multnomah Friends 2:30pm Sat Apr 11th"<br /><br />You'll also find such quality programs like anti-Semite agitator MikeRivero of WhatReallyHappened.com and <br />Stephen Lendman of conspiracy heavy GlobalResearch.ca<br /><br />Now, how do I get out of this Rabbit Hole?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-16130240963609025402013-07-01T14:30:45.047-07:002013-07-01T14:30:45.047-07:00>>Yep, The standards at KBOO might seem a to...>>Yep, The standards at KBOO might seem a touch out of line with the rest of the world.<br /><br />That's why KBOO's key goal is to serve Portland's huge conspiracy fairytale-prone community, Comrade! <br /><br />FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-55855306977227368632013-07-01T14:29:32.304-07:002013-07-01T14:29:32.304-07:00Habemus PapadopalousHabemus PapadopalousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-42374680903035528842013-07-01T14:27:31.893-07:002013-07-01T14:27:31.893-07:00A guy who attacks hired consultants and wants to b...A guy who attacks hired consultants and wants to bring "911truth and exposure of "fake progressivism"" to KBOO is a rational candidate? <br /><br />Yep, The standards at KBOO might seem a touch out of line with the rest of the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-6536395448992194802013-07-01T13:48:53.530-07:002013-07-01T13:48:53.530-07:00In Italian, Papa means THE POPE. So if we're ...In Italian, Papa means THE POPE. So if we're gonna be respectful, keep in mind what we mean by Comrade Papa! Considering how long it took there should have been white smoke when he was finally a board member!<br /><br />SOLIDARITY!Multicultural Cadre Grammariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-55845648185513595972013-07-01T13:44:15.856-07:002013-07-01T13:44:15.856-07:00"I voted for Michael Pappy for the board last..."I voted for Michael Pappy for the board last year. It's not like there was abundance of rational candidates."<br /><br />A guy who attacks hired consultants and wants to bring "911truth and exposure of "fake progressivism"" to KBOO is a rational candidate? <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-88649497615356215802013-07-01T13:37:05.202-07:002013-07-01T13:37:05.202-07:00"At least he doesn't support the staff co..."At least he doesn't support the staff collective."<br /><br />Wouldn't bet on that. Lots of people involved who aren't what they seem....<br /><br />He's a nut. FFSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-73398957555175772962013-07-01T13:32:55.760-07:002013-07-01T13:32:55.760-07:00"Never understood how Michael Pappy stays on ..."Never understood how Michael Pappy stays on the board."<br /><br />Well maybe 400 people voted in the election last year<br />I voted for Michael Pappy for the board last year. It's not like there was abundance of rational candidates.<br />At least he doesn't support the staff collective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2391754914067931852.post-82820554435730247982013-07-01T13:18:02.363-07:002013-07-01T13:18:02.363-07:00"Don't you know that KBOO kept a dirty bo..."Don't you know that KBOO kept a dirty bomb from being detonated in Portland?"<br /><br />Portland is only safe if the INNER PARTY maintains control of KBOO! <br /><br />Ben and Hadrian would try to negotiate with the Illuminati false flagger bombers! Or worse, not take Glorious Leaders warnings seriously! They certainly would NOT have the courage to make fools of themselves in public screaming "The Gubmint's gonna nuke Portland"!<br /><br />That's the Leadership we need at KBOO today! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com